Can I create arrows WITHOUT text?

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ship69
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Can I create arrows WITHOUT text?

Post by ship69 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:46 pm

Hello

Is it possible to connect text boxes (nodes) WITHOUT any text labelling the arrows between them?
And if so how?

Many thanks

J


PS I am using IHMC Cmap Tools v 6.01.01, on Windows 10.

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Re: Can I create arrows WITHOUT text?

Post by cmapadmin » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:59 pm


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Re: Can I create arrows WITHOUT text?

Post by ship69 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:16 pm

Suggestion:
Surely it would be easier to do what Mindomo.com does in Concept Map mode - which is if there is no text entered for the arrow it just does a simple arrow.

Trying to help

J

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Re: Can I create arrows WITHOUT text?

Post by cmapadmin » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:16 pm

We promote the construction of concept maps, and concept maps *always* have linking phrases to form propositions.

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Re: Can I create arrows WITHOUT text?

Post by ship69 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:59 pm

We promote the construction of concept maps, and concept maps *always* have linking phrases to form propositions.
To be frank this form of ridid thinking smacks of intellectual snobbery and will be stopping more widespread use of CMAPTools.

Backstory
I have been looking high and low for a decent concept mapper application without success. Six months on, out of pure desperaction, I had another look at CMAPTools to remind myself what the problem was.

Problems:

A) Not obvious
Guessing how to connect shapes with text is not remotely obvious. So you will have lost many of your potential users right there. (Answer: hold down shift whilst drawing the connection)

B) Not editable
But even more irritating is that you can't just edit the connecting line when the text becomes available you have to re-draw the connector from scratch. i.e. You can't just double click nor right-click on the connector and hope to add a line.

The reality is that sometimes one needs to connect boxes either without text or without any text being available YET. Indeed adding text to every concept relationship can become very pedantic and can clutter up the message one is trying to communicate. Either way adding text later is a pain the way CMAPTools currently works.

There is a serious lack of "concept mapping" and "topic mapping" tools. It seems that there is almost nothing out there that lets the user bang in lots of concepts just using the board, and edit their exact relationships later.

Trying to help

J

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Re: Can I create arrows WITHOUT text?

Post by cmapadmin » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:44 am

So what you are looking is a for a simple way (shortcut?) to add the linking phrase (text) to the connecting line?

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Re: Can I create arrows WITHOUT text?

Post by dgroos » Sun May 28, 2017 6:55 pm

@ship69, I know your frustration. Yet, that thing us designers of all types must do, scaffolding, requires us to make decisions based on intended use of our design (ie tool). Yet yet, there is a continuum from creating affordances in a tool for intended outcomes and scaffolding said tool to for organic/creative use--or obfuscating it.

I remember showing my dad when I was in kindergarten that a better way to use a hammer is to hit the nail with the side of the head, not the small front surface (with which it was ideally designed)! I know that shift-drag/drop is the designed way but let's make that affordance more discoverable, thanks for asking for suggestions! How about if there were a brief instruction e.g. "Shift-drag to create unbroken lines" on the styles palette on the 'lines' tab? I use CmapTools as one of my central thinking tools--and for my students, too, so cmaptools doesn't loose anything I think by increasing its versatility. Yes, conceptual relations must have propositional phrases.

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